by Pastor Mike Taylor
8 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.” (Ephesians 2:8-10)
We have been having a discussion on a forum, and some get very belligerent over the issue of OSAS. It's a doctrine that causes some very strong opinions when you address the question, “Are we saved for all eternity and is “eternal security” a license to sin?”
I say “strong opinions” as men are mortal and the human nature of mankind is to want to be right. To challenge a long embraced doctrinal belief, even with scripture, is to threaten the intellectual part of a person and many people who resort to being antagonistic just can't handle being told they are wrong.
I had one lady on the forum make the following statement :
“So
my line of thought is....
If you're Catholic and don't believe in
eternal security (because you think it's a license to sin), yet you
believe that you must go to purgatory for the purification of
sin...
Why is it that those who believe in eternal security
are looked down on because we know that we sin (as the Catholics do),
but we believe that since salvation is given and not earned, we can't
lose it ? “
And then you have the alternate belief of a religion who bases their salvation on a work based platform and denounce those who follow what scripture says and hold onto a legalistic viewpoint that they must obey their church. Thus they speak that their church is the final authority and not the Bible. We must raise the question proposed:
“"What about someone who professes to be a Christian and accepts they are a sinner, and admits Jesus died for their sins -- yet they continue to live an unrepentant sinful life?" That's a good question. So what's the answer? Let us first define what the belief of “eternal security” actually is.
As the apostle Paul wrote in Hebrews, defines what will happen to the Christian who does not follow the ways of God:
12 "Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God......(going further down)
5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.” (Hebrews 12:1-2, 5-8)
Don't ever think that God will not get your attention. I call it out behind the “Divine Woodshed”....God will start with rebuke, possibly at church from another believer, but if not heeded, the chastening grows exponentially and the person may suffer financial loss, family problems, disease or loss of function, or to the extreme...death of a disobedient son.
Taking the definition from a purely secular definition found on Wikipedia, the definition is pretty straight forward:
“Perseverance of the saints (also referred to as eternal security as well as the similar but distinct doctrine known as "Once Saved, Always Saved") is a teaching that asserts that once persons are truly "born of God" or "regenerated" by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, nothing in heaven or earth "shall be able to separate (them) from the love of God" (Romans 8:39) resulting in a reversal of the converted condition.”
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Romans 8:37-39)
So since those of the “mother church” Roman Catholicism, and Evangelical Christianity both can't be right, we must turn to the final authority and what is found in your Bible...Now RCC will argue traditions and the writings of the “apostolic fathers”, but when tradition contradicts the Bible, then the Bible takes precedence. But you must interpret the clear meaning of scripture through the Holy Spirit, as the doctrines of salvation are spiritually discerned.
18 “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.” (1st Corinthians 1:18-21)
12 “Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1st Corinthians 2:12-14)
We all know someone that went to church, accepted Jesus, then fell away and right back into the life they were living before they got saved. They still talk about Jesus and use Christian buzzwords when around other Christians, but that is about the only visible extent of their conversion. That's question is on both sides of this doctrine of eternal security, Catholic as well as Evangelical.
Those who profess Jesus Christ, but still continue in sins of the flesh..some more, some less. They don't continue to gather at your local church, they may continue to smoke, they may have loose lips and say profanity either out of anger, or just habit, but claim to believe, or other various sins that are of this world...Are they really saved? Taking the arguments of those on the afore-mentioned forums, the transformation of an angry, worldly person over a long, painful period didn't just happen...it didn't change them from their old habits into the glorious image of our Lord and Savior at the point of conversion. It takes a long period of willing sacrifice and the question of salvation is not of works, but the question is, if there are no works after salvation, was the salvation real or imagined?
28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?" (Romans 8:28-31)
Can someone believe themselves to be saved and heaven-bound without demonstrating any kind of relationship with Christ? Quoting the forum post directly, can a person "just claim knowledge of the saving grace of God, but never put it into practice?" I have to sympathize with the person who posed the question, as living a Christian life in this world, is not easy because the transition and the transformation process from one extreme (a lost sinner) to the other (a changed life) is a painful process that some Christians prefer not to take the trip.
“What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? ...(James 2:14-16)
James
is not speaking of loss of salvation, but loss of rewards that come
from the Bema Judgment seat of Christ....We must be laying treasures
up in heaven.
But
is the process of transformation, evident by works, a requirement of
salvation? For that is the question in the final analysis.
JESUS
EXPLAINS THE DIFFERENCE
I
want to explore a parable that Jesus told to those who condemned Him
for eating with tax collectors who were the most hated of the Jewish
society, as they were viewed as traitors by working for the Roman
authorities.
We
all know the story of the Prodigal Son, but to quickly summarize,
Jesus spoke of a man with two sons. One demanded his inheritance and
went off and lived a riotous, sinful life. The other son stayed home
and worked for his father on the family farm. Ultimately, the younger
son found himself in the pig pen competing with the pigs for the corn
husk (the most foul unclean destiny for any observant Jew could
imagine). Meanwhile, the elder son, (the more serious one) put his
love for his father into action by working in the fields, obeying his
father's commands, and served him faithfully.
The
comparison is stark and deliberate and Jesus used the parable to make
a point to those who questioned Him, and it sounds like some of the
questions proposed on this forum by certain members. I don't believe
the similarity is accidental. On one hand, we have an unrepentant,
lustful, disobedient son squandering his inheritance on sinful
living, shaming his father everywhere he goes. He cares about nothing
but himself and wastes all that his father gave him.
On
the other, we find the obedient, hardworking and honorable son,
working at his father's business, because he loves his father.
He isn't working at his father's business to earn his
inheritance. He already has that
by virtue of his sonship. He is working that hard
out of love.
So
when the disobedient, lustful son shows up and is received as an
equal to the obedient son, the obedient son says, "How can this
be?" The father in the parable, is liken to God the Father
who will receive the son, but he looses rewards for not being
obedient.
"And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends: But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf." (Luke 15:29-30)
So how is it that the one son who had left his father and the elder son who honored his father, and this sinful son who has just now returned and given a joyful welcome, are by any means equal?
ON first glance, the elder son has a legitimate point, but still the lesson is even though the elder son was obedient, he didn't do it for his inheritance, since it was his by being his father's son, but the younger son didn't loose his being his father's son by squandering away his inheritance either.
So from this parable that Jesus spoke in answer to those who made a difference between classes of people in the Jewish society, can we make the same comparison of those who claim to be Christian and have accepted Jesus as Personal Savior and ask the question “"Can a person be a son of God without putting their faith into practice?" would appear to be, YES. I am reminded of what Paul wrote at the end of Romans chapter 8 and it begs a closer examination of this doctrine:
32“He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 8:33-39)
Nothing can separate us from the love of God...NOTHING...not even ourselves. Jesus said that He will loose none who He has chosen:
37 “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.” (John 6:37-39)
There
are no shades of gray when it comes to salvation. Either one is a
child of God, or one is not. It is an issue of “relationship” not
behavior. One does not work his way into a family relationship. It is
not earned, it is given as a gift Nothing we can do will earn us
salvation. Our works will not impart righteousness to our account.
For Isaiah wrote :
6 “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
7And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.” (Isaiah 64:6-7)
That is why our Lord Jesus came and took the penalty that we deserved, which is death. We are clothed with HIS righteousness, and not of our own. When God the Father looks upon us, He sees the righteousness of His Son clothing us with His own righteousness, AS A GIFT, nothing we earned gives us the right to be called sons/daughters of God
One
need not be in fellowship to still be part of that family. I know of
many father and sons, or even daughters who have no fellowship to
speak of, but that does NOT make them unrelated. They are still
father and son/daughter. That does not change.
Which
brings us to the next, and most obvious question. How does one
enter into a family relationship with God?
"And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? " And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." (Acts 16:30-31)
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10:9)
"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am He, ye shall die in your sins." (John 8:24)
"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.: (1 John 1:9)
"For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. (Romans 8:15)
"And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father." (Galatians 4:6)
("Abba"
is the Hebrew equivalent to "Daddy" -- and that is
how the Lord pictures the relationship between the Father and a
Christian.)
THINK
BACK TO AN EARLIER TIME
Remember
the time when you were first saved? I do very clearly. For each of
us, there is the period of time before we were saved, and then the
moments when we made that confession and belief in Jesus Christ as
Savior, followed by all the time we have left on this earth. We are
to repent of our sins at this moment of conversion, as that is the
beginning of our conversion from what we were, into what we have now
become...a child of God.
The
English Bible translates repent from the Greek word metanoeo, which
means, "to change one's mind" -- in this case, about one's
sin. So an "unrepentant Christian" is an oxymoron.
If one is a Christian, one has already changed
one's mind about one's sin.
The
moments that come afterwards cannot undo the moment that has already
occurred. Hang with me here as I prove the point by following what
God said, not what man believes is true from following their
church's traditions.
There
are some important points to understand when we look at the story of
the prodigal son.
1) He is still his father's son, no matter what has happened.
The father assures the obedient son that all that the father has belongs to him.
28 “And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.
29And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:
30But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.
31And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.
32It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.” Luke 15:28-32)
2. The prodigal son gets nothing but a warm greeting and a place to call home. The elder son's inheritance is fully intact. The obedient son lived a sheltered life, protected by the father and never suffered the indignities, pain, hunger, shame and guilt that racked the prodigal's life. The obedient son will always be in charge. The prodigal is grateful to have a bed.
3. We get another picture of the difference between the obedient son and the prodigal son in Paul's letter to the Corinthians describing such a scene in heaven before the judgment seat of Christ.
11” For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” (1st Corinthians 3:11-15)
This is a picture of the obedient son standing in front of his Savior and being confused why another who is there at all, because they didn't live like a Christian. (a prodigal son Christian) The obedient son receives the rewards for those things done in his body for the Father here on earth and those done for the Name of His only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ. He is rewarded for his struggles here on earth, for proclaiming the witness of Jesus Christ and being good stewards of the talents given to him and doing his Father's business.
Then comes the prodigal son...you know that Christian we all judged here on earth as not deserving any kind of reward, or even a place in heaven.
Note
that he is also standing before the Judgment Seat of Christ. Not
because of his obedience, but because of his status as a son. That
status was extended to him, the moment he accepted Jesus as personal
Savior. At the moment of salvation, he changed his mind about sin and
accepted the free pardon extended to him. He asked Jesus into his
heart, he was washed clean of all of his sins, past, present AND
future. He was adopted into the family of God and was saved.
Now
he stands before Jesus being judged for his rewards, or “inheritance”
...just as the prodigal son was judged as a son, but received nothing
but a place to call home and a warm bed. His status as a son, has not
changed, but he didn't do much for God in the life he lived. He may
have been embarrassed to witness...he may have been a wall flower who
didn't have much confidence and didn't rely on the strength God gives
to those who ask. But he is still family. Note the last verse of the
passage quoted in 1st Corinthians
3.
"If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:15)
Note that he suffered loss....loss of rewards. But he himself will be saved, as THROUGH the fire. We don't know what heaven will be like, but those who just “get by” will not be given the responsibilities of a son to rule over God's Kingdom here on earth, and into eternity.
23 “His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.” (Matthew 25:23)
42 “And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
43Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
44Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.” (Luke 12:42-44)
ETERNAL SECURITY MISUNDERSTOOD
Eternal security is NOT a license to sin, because your sin will find you out. If it be a habitual sin, it will kill your body. It will kill your witness for Jesus Christ and will kill your effectiveness for Christ. It may lead to disease, or it may lead to premature death. It will eliminate rewards handed out during Jesus Christ Bema Seat judgment.
Sin has consequences in this life, and it has consequences in the next life...In the next life, there will be Kings and princes allowed to rule, and there will be subjects and servants. There will be mansions, some greater than others....which suggest that some will end up with just an apartment and a place to call home. But being tried by fire and coming through the fire, as the scripture says “If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” means he is allowed to live. Why? Because he is a son, and has Jesus found in his heart when he received the deposit of His Holy Spirit at conversion and repented of his past sins. We are saved by grace. Grace is defined receiving something you did not earn. Mercy is defined as something you earned but did not receive.
Being saved means literally being saved from “the second death” and not being cast out into outer darkness where Jesus described it several times, “where the worm dieth not, or the fire quenched and there is weeping and gnashing of teeth”. The rest is determined by your obedience and did you follow the commands of our Lord God? Did you conform to the image of His Son, or did you just get by?
THE WAR BETWEEN THE SPIRIT AND THE FLESH
But if you follow the scriptures, you realize that no matter how hard you try, you will not be able to be perfect. You will still sin...maybe not to the level that you practiced before salvation, but in God's eyes, sin is sin....and Paul lamented in Romans chapter 7 of this very fact.
14 “For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do............
22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.” Romans 7:14-19, 22-24)
But moving on into chapter 8, Paul gives us even more truth of our inability to totally quit sinning in that we strive to follow the Spirit and subject our flesh to God's law though imperfectly.
1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.” (Roman 8:1-2)
Not that we are free from the law of sin and death....its penalty, YES, but not from sin entirely...it's humanly impossible, because we are still mortal.
But those who strive to keep themselves from sin, are like the obedient son..Obedient Christians aren't wasting their time being good when they could be out partying. They are laying up for themselves treasures in heaven, like contributions to a heavenly 401k. ….
19 “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” (Matthew 6:19-21)
You don't need a 401K to retire here on earth, but if you don't have one, you'll regret it...so it is with eternity. If you don't lay up treasure in heaven and receive nothing but a place to call home at the Bema Judgment seat, and as a Christian, you don't have to have works to get to heaven, but in the future, you will regret it...for all eternity.
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”(Matthew 6:19-21)
NOW IS THE TIME TO LAY THOSE TREASURES IN HEAVEN.
It is either black vs. white, or night vs. day. Those who believe on Jesus Christ as their personal Savior will become son/daughters of God, and those who don't will receive damnation. Son/daughters can lay up treasures in heaven, but those found to be in rebellion will only endure pain and suffering for all eternity...don't let that happen to you.
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.” (John 3:16-19)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Romans 10:8-13)
JESUS is coming soon in the rapture of the bride of Christ, or the church of the Living God. Each of us should be about our Father's business storing up treasures in heaven that we will received as the Bema Judgment seat of Christ and be included into the family of God...Make that decision for Christ, TODAY.
This is Pastor Mike Taylor, praying you find savings Grace and God's mercy..if you need counseling, prayer, or just a listening ear, email me at pastormiketaylor@yahoo.com, or visit me online for more biblical teachings from the Word of God at www.pastormiketaylor.blogspot.com, God bless you all,
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